14 April 2024

An Updates and a FLR shared.

 We've been having a very busy few week in our lives for a number of reasons, nothing bad but they really have taken a lot of our time, so the aim of this post is to get you up to date with things.

Firstly my health continues to be an issue but is manageable and I'm following the medical guidance and currently losing weight and doing more exercise.  this will be a long term thing but we have al now settled into a routine that is helping me towards improved  health/ recovery.

Next, has been my work, which has been rather busy but unlike my major project last year, this has been challenging, busy but has been rather interesting, so while it has taken a lot of my home time and also limited time with Madam, it has been a good experience.

The next bit is the main part of this post, over the past few weeks we, Alice and myself, had several sit down conversations with our Ellie and David.  We made the decision to explain our relationship, initially the details of our FLR and how and why we live the way we do and then a little later we also explained about the "cuckolding" side of our relationship.  

The reason that we did it in two separate conversations was that we wanted to see what the reaction was to the details about our FLR with it's elements of Chastity, crossdressing, bi sexuality and punishments, before we then launched with "oh by the way, your Aunt also has a long term boyfriend that spends most weekends over at our house while I'm a completely subservient maid....."

The first conversation was in March when Ellie came and spent the weekend with us, we started it in a very vanilla way, it was very much done as Mick and Alice.  

We have to be really grateful to Carol and Kerri as they had hosted Ellie and David for a couple of weekends down at their house so that they could see their FLR and also to meet 2 other couples that Carol knows that live in different types of FLR.  Apparently that really did lay the ground work and opened both of their eyes to the fact that FLR means different things to different people and that there is no standard fit or model.

We spent the early part of the visit explaining what made us move to having a FLR, what the problems were with our marriage, the verbal fights and the realisation that one of us had to become the Dominant and also combined with the fact that my mental implosion from work related stress etc.  Quite a bit of this was a surprise to Ellie, as we had a very close relationship with her as she had grown up, we can only surmise that we hid it well from family and friends.  With that explained we cracked another bottle of wine and then got into the main part of explaining and showing our FLR.

We talked about our out Public face of Mick and Alice and then explained about the FLR personalities at home which are Madam and billie, we each explained why we had the different aspects and Ellie had quite a few questions to both of us.  things like "What are your Limits?"  "are there things that only happen in the vanilla life or are FLR things always present?", "what happens when one of you wants to switch from FLR to Vanilla personalities."

We made it clear that the FLR is now, and has been for about 20 years, the leading part of our lives and the vanilla is mainly only the outward face that we have with the public. We probably live 95% of the time in the FLR.

We had an interesting conversation when we spoke about our relationship with Carol and Kerri, Alice confessed that she and Carol were Girlfriends, which did not comes as a surprise to Ellie as apparently she had spotted the two of them having a "rather passionate private kiss" when we all got together at New Year.

What did comes as a surprise was when I told her that also have a relationship with kerri, I'd say that she was a little taken aback by that but once she recovered she was full of questions, all positive and very inquisitive.  While she had meet Kevin at our New Year get together, their visit down to Carol's allowed them to meet kerri and to understand more about her and the fact that she was almost always in the female role in their relationship.

Ellie was already aware that I was kept in chastity but hadn't seen it, also she knew that I was required to wear female underwear.  We wanted to makes sure that she understood about billie (and Ms Watson) so I excused myself and went and changed into one of my maids uniforms.  I had already agreed with Alice before Ellie arrived that when I went and changed this would be us switch over to Madam and submissive billie and that I would be in complete submissive role, including defering and being submissive to our niece and I would refer to her as "Miss".  

this allowed us to show the way that out FLR work, it was almost like a "walk through, talk through".  Ellie had lots of questions and observations, and we had lots of things to explain or to add context.  it went really well and she did fully get what we did and why.

Madam also made a point of explaining how and why we did the weekly review, even to the point of providing Ellie with a display and talk on how to apply different types of punishments and cornertime.  

with that done I was dismissed and sent to get changed, this time I simply changed out of the maids uniform and put on one of my satin dressing gowns and rejoined them in the Living room.

The rest of the evening was relaxed with lots of curious chat and questions, Oh and wine, the girls had plenty of wine.

So overall the weekend was a success.  The next stages was for us to travel up to Ellie and David's place at Easter and bring David upto speed on the details of our FLR.  We also got to see the type of FLR that they already had and where and how it came about, it was really interesting to see how it had actually grown and developed.  Apparently what had started with our niece being a goth and taking her then boyfriend to concerts and events, strayed over to being invited to a few events on the fetish side of things to them both taking a liking to being part of the Fetish scene.  It was also interesting to find out that the driver for the move to an FLR wasn't our very forward and clearly sharp and dominant niece but actually David. 

We actually spent several days with them, it was good to get them both on side and one of the important parts was that I spent a long afternoon with David chatting with him and letting him ask questions about any and all aspects of the relationship.  he had questions about my chastity and the dressing side of things.  He was also very curious about my need for humiliation.  It was a very open conversation and it went quite well.

I'll be honest, my view of David has changed, I had the impression that he was very competent at his work, and rather shy and subservient at home.  It's really clear that he is actually competent and confident at work, and his shyness is actually with Ellie's wider family, he is a very confident and comfortable being submissive to Ellie.  What makes him nervous appears to be the fact that he doesn't want embarrass Ellie infront of her family, and it appears that Alice and myself are an important part of that.  Yes, he lets Ellie lead in the relationship, while he is comfortable to follow, but it was good to see that he has a strong voice in the relationship.  (but he isn't topping from the bottom!)

The other part of the conversation that we all had together was to explain to them about the one aspect that we hadn't mentioned, and we made it very clear that it was not to be mentioned or discussed with any other family members and that was the relationship that we had with John, the cuckolding side of the relationship.  We made appoint that it was not an integral part of our FLR, more of a "bolt on" to the relationship, but we also explained that what made it work was the fact that John absolutely understood our FLR and has been willing to embrace it and take part in it.  

Why did we explain it in this way?  well we were keen to make sure that they didn't get the wrong impression and think that cuckolding is a part of all FLRs, which it isn't and also was the fact that all of Alice's previous boyfriends were not involved or did not want to be involved in our FLR.

Again with this revelation there was lots of questions and also the two of them were now looking at us with a bit of a different view of us.  I think we are viewed as being a bit more liberated rather than the "traditional and conservative" couple that they had perhaps thought we were, I think we have been breaking down that impression over the last 6 months bit by bit anyway. 

 So there you have it, it has been a few weeks where we have been a bag of nerves working out how we were going to open up and explain things, and then in small chunks we have laid bare our FLR, exposed it to scrutiny and to questions and I think we did it in a way that has been accepted and understood, even if it has had some real surprises for our youngster.  also as I said it was also good to get a view of their FLR and the journey that they have been on.

It's going to be an interesting journey and I think, well both Alice and I think things will be just fine for them and we've probably made their relationship with us a bit stronger. 



2 comments:

  1. Oh Billie
    What a glorious post
    Thanks for sharing

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  2. i agree with marciann billie, great post and such a courageous conversation and discussion the two of you had with Ellie and David. Interesting too that David sounds like he was the one who has initiated his submission to Ellie. i can relate to that. Good to have clarified for them that FLR does not inevitably mean cuckolding, although i think it can open the mind more to such a possibility.

    Glad it all went well though and a weight of both yours and Alice's mind i am sure.

    Well done with the weight loss by the way.

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