A change of Plans for the Weekend - Part 2

From Madam Alice:

Following on from my earlier post.

After the afternoon and evening of dealing with my Sister and her problem of her daughter, Ellie, becoming engaged to David,  Mick and myself had a few drinks to wind down to an element of calm.

We went back to the hotel room and I asked Mick to get changed into something more gurly and to come to bed and make love to me. We had a very lovely hour or so being very intimate with each other, lots of kissing and touching. while it was good to have Mick for the confrontation at my sister's house, I needed billie now to take away my stress and tension, which he did wonderfully. We eventually fell asleep  wrapped together with me snuggled into his satin covered chest and with with my one of my legs laid over his stocking clad legs. (billie remained caged throughout all of this).

In the morning I was woken with billie being up and making a coffee for both of us. I'd had a good sleep and was relaxed and ready for the day.  I was expecting today to be a have less stress than the previous day.  We both just chatted as we had our coffee, with nothing particular in mind, I think billie was being careful not to mention the previous day's discussions so it was a chat that covered the plans for the garden and the veg patch, potential ideas for a trip away and just simple chit chat that couples do.  With coffee finished I went for a shower, while billie shaved.  Unfortunately the shower wasn't big enough for both of us to get in together.

I was part dressed when billie came out of the shower and was dried ready to get dressed.  I had rummaged in our travel bag and laid out what I wanted him to wear -  The cami top he had worn yesterday, hold up stockings and pair of nylon and satin high leg briefs.  He looked at it and voiced a bit of concern, he had worn the cami yesterday and he was going to forego the top as he knew what Ellie was like with her hugging and wandering hands.

I made it clear that I was aware of that but I liked him in his cami top and not to worry about it, he would be fine.  He was about to put on the Wool Jumper he had worn the previous day rather than the rugby shirt that he had originally laid out, I told him to stick with the rugby shirt and gave him a look that told him not to argue with me. I could tell that he wasn't overly happy but I didn't care, he was dressed in a way that I liked.

Once we were both dressed we went to have a very nice leisurely breakfast at the pub next to the hotel, which was very nice.  Having been fed we went back and pack our bag and checked out.  billie suggested that we were still a bit early to turn up at Ellie's and David's place and suggested that we go and bit of a walk for about an hour.  It would also allow us to walk off the breakfast and with it being dry it wasn't a bad idea.  So a short drive to a wooded area that we knew of old and we killed an hour of time just being a couple walking holding hands along the paths and tracks - which was really very nice and I keep forgetting how much I enjoy doing this type of thing.

With the walk done it was back to the car and then a very short drive over to our Niece's house.  As we got nearer billie asked if he could put his fleece bodywarmer on, I patted his leg and told him that the house will probably have the heating on so he wouldn't need it.  I knew why he wanted to wear it.  He dropped the subject.  We arrived and parked at the house.  As we walked up to the door it was opened and Ellie ushered us in and the door was closed. Ellie gave me a very affectionate hug and told us how pleased they were to see us, I was directed to the living room where David was and I got an equally affectionate hug from him.

billie was in the hallway getting his hug from his niece, which I assumed would have been as affectionate and tight as mine.  When he appeared in the living room to meet David, he was some what red in the face and with a slight worried look on his face.  David stepped up to him and they greeted each other and shook hands.

we were offered seats and Ellie asked if we wanted tea or coffee and promptly disappeared to the kitchen to get our coffee's, David sat down and started to chat with us. after a minute or so he said he would just go and help Ellie bring in the tea.  

As soon as he left the room, billie turned to me and with a whispering voice "She knows! What have you told her?" I simply answered him with a smile and "She already knew I just filled in some gaps and corrected some wrong ideas - don't worry she doesn't have all the details....yet."  We halted the conversation there as we heard the couple coming back in with the mugs.

With everyone now armed with a mug of tea or coffee, a small plate of biscuits and all sat down in the living room we started to catch up on all of our news.  it was all very pleasant and enjoyable, We danced about with the conversation for about half an hour and then David politely asked how the family meeting went. I was expecting Ellie to be the one to have brought the topic up but I go the feeling that David knew the discussion would have been focused on him.

For the next hour we talked through what had happened and the fact that we had both stood the corner for both of them, I didn't go into details about "Angry Mick's Rant" but simply assured that Ellie's Uncle had been quite clear and forceful in getting his points across. Ellie gave billie a particular look, which I noticed and I made a note to talk with her about the fact that there are distinct personas and differences with my husband, and that she shouldn't just jump to the conclusion that a submissive is submissive to everyone and to everything all of the time.  My husband is my submissive and is submissive to me, that doesn't stop him from taking a non submissive attitude and standpoint.

We asked how they were getting on with plans for the wedding.  No date was set as yet but they had plans to keep it small and low key.  They were very clear that they were not planning any fancy theme's or gimmicks, but they did warn that they may step away from a traditional wedding -  I got the feeling that would mean that Ellie wasn't planning on wearing white at the wedding!

The pair had been to see David's parents and they were delighted from all accounts, which was really good to hear.

With the lunch still a hour and half away Ellie suggested that David could take Mick to the local pub and they could have a pint together.  It was very much an order dressed up as a suggestion.  So we managed to get rid of the boys out of the house so that I could have a good chat with Ellie.

My first question to her was "What did you do to my husband?" To which she gave a laugh and told me that she had felt for his straps at his shoulder and let him know that she knew about him being called "billie".

It is probably important to give you background. Since her engagement we have been chatting quite regularly.  The phone calls were a mix of general chatting and eventually the truthful questions arrived and then these calls became more about asking for advice and opinions.

So......

Ellie knew that Uncle Mick had had a bit of a breakdown at some point after her and her sister went back to live with her mum.  She also knew that our relationship had changed after that point, her view was, as she got older that we'd had marriage problems like her Mum and Dad and this was our way of dealing with things.  Ellie also mentioned that as she got older and visited us she did notice that Mick tended to do most of the domestic house work (well he did tend to work from home) but she had noticed that the vast majority of the clothes washes were women's clothes, underwear, lingerie and hosiery with only a few pairs of male underwear and socks.  

During one stay she made the observation that based on several washing line contents she had worked out that Mick was changing his underpants every 3 days and socks every 4 days, while I was wearing about 5 pairs of knickers every 2 days and changing stockings at least twice a day.

The pointed question she asked was "Is Uncle Mick a crossdresser or are you making him wear women's lingerie?"  OK we were rumbled, I knew that Ellie was a smart girl.  I asked her if this was why she gave her uncle such affectionate hugs over the recent years?  To which she said yes, she had given him a normal type of hug quite a few years ago and felt something under his top but he broke off the hug before she could confirm it, since then she had been determined to do a better check.

I admitted that I made him wear women's lingerie and stockings.  She wanted to know if it was done "as a punishment or is it something to do with your lifestyle?"  I told her that it wasn't a punishment as such and I asked what did she mean about "our Lifestyle"?

"Do you have a Female Led Marriage?"

Well that was direct and there was only one way to answer that and that was to tell her that "Yes we do, but we tend to call it a FLR, what do you know about FLR/FLMs?"

So from that point on a lot of our conversations were about how we developed our FLR and the relationship between Mick and me and how we have billie.

I had asked her what her interest in all of this was, and she admitted that David was submissive to her, that once they started to be serious with each other as a couple they had had a honest conversation about what they wanted in life and from each other.  The term that she used was that David said he "wanted to be devoted to her." From all accounts and from the examples it does look and sound that he is, physically and emotionally completely devoted to her.  She admitted that she had always been the more assertive in relationships and that probably scared off some of her previous boyfriends but apparently David fitted perfectly with that.

One of my questions early on to her was "did she actually love David or if it was just the fact that he allowed/ accepted this power exchange in the relationship"?.  From the way she answered that question I'm quite reassured that she loves him as much as it appears that he loves her.

She has lots of questions and I have spent lots of time chatting with her, and I'm sure there will be more.  I'm trying to pass on some of the knowledge that Carol passed onto me.  From what Ellie has said she and David are already in a FLR and want to develop it further as they progress to marriage.

During our conversations about how I influence control over billie I let Ellie knows that billie is in chastity, that revelation didn't shock her too much, which surprised me.  she was aware about chastity cages and had seen them mentioned in some of the things she had read about with FLR and FLMs.  I have made it clear that it isn't an essential element of FLR and it hasn't been imposed because I don't trust Mick/ billie.  She has said that it isn't something she wants anyway as she wants to have kids at a point after the wedding.

There are parts of our FLR that I have not shared and won't share until I think she and David are ready for it.  From all accounts she has shared everything that we have discussed with David and I'm sure at some point he will start asking advice from Mick.  I don't know if they even discussed it while at the pub, I suspect not as I think it may take David a little bit of time get the courage to ask.

The boys appeared back close to lunch time.  Myself and Ellie had been dealing with the food and David and billie set about the task of setting the table.  

The Sunday lunch was lovely and the chat across the table was enjoyable and wasn't too serious.  By the time we had finished everything  and were ready to leave we had reassured the young couple that their Aunt and Uncle were on their side and were prepared to support them both. 

As we said our farewells, we both got a very affectionate hug from Ellie and big thank you from her.

Our drive back south had a lot of questions from billie, to which I gave him some of the information about what Ellie knew about us and also about their relationship.    

I planned to give billie all of the details that Ellie and I have discussed on Thursday evening after his weekly review - why then? I want him fully in billie mode and also in an appropriate submissive mindset. (considering this is being finished and published on Saturday, billie is now fully upto speed with things and somewhat surprised that as he was having a drink with David in the pub "the Lad" knew he was wearing lingerie and a chastity!) 

We both agree that Ellie and David really do suit each other and the FLR style of relationship will allow them to be balanced with each other.  There are things that Ellie needs to learn and develop.  Both billie and I agree that we will be prepared to be honest and open with the two of them and be available to advise and guide them when they want us.

The Sunday spent with this young couple made up for all of the angst and annoyance of the Saturday.  I'd say it ended up being not a bad weekend overall.  I now just need to reschedule my original plans into the next few weekends!